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	<title>Comments on: Christine Maggiore dies, but not of HIV</title>
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		<title>By: Truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/christine-maggiore-dies-but-not-of-hiv.htm/comment-page-3#comment-6873</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scientific literature is the first litmus test applied to claims by the watchdogs at this site, as you know, followed closely by another litmus test applied to the studies cited.  Are they properly done or not?  

As you know, we have pointed out often, in harmony with many people and other sites and books, that many studies in medicine are not properly done, and very often seem to assume the outcome they detect and even use it as a premise. As JAMA and others have shown, this mysteriously correlates to quite a high degree with the business interests of the researchers, who for some reason dpn&#039;t often publish results which would lower the revenue of their funders.

We stop short however of stating so blatantly your apparently reflex suspicion of the motivations of researchers, whether conscious or not.  Given that human motivations are rarely simple, it seems unfair to accuse people of sheer crookedness if many factors are at work, some of them probably sheer incompetence and stupidity and other unconscious factors.  

Yet as you know in AIDS many of the drug studies are useless for lack of controls and the entire literature assumes that the cause of immune deficiency is HIV without any good reason and innumerable reasons against this presumption, It is clear from their actions to resist review that the leaders of the field are fully aware that their tens of thousands of papers are corrupted at their core and outsiders could easily see this if the critics were allowed to gain a major media platform.

Whether autism research is similarly corrupted by poor design and reasoning we don&#039;t know.  Certainly the parents of autistic children and their supporters are sure there is a correlation between vaccines and their child&#039;s handicap.   The suspicion that the mercury in vaccines was causing the problem seems now, however, to be ruled out, since autism diagnoses are as high or higher than ever even though the mercury laden preservative has been removed from vaccines for two years now, we believe.  Perhaps you know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scientific literature is the first litmus test applied to claims by the watchdogs at this site, as you know, followed closely by another litmus test applied to the studies cited.  Are they properly done or not?  </p>
<p>As you know, we have pointed out often, in harmony with many people and other sites and books, that many studies in medicine are not properly done, and very often seem to assume the outcome they detect and even use it as a premise. As JAMA and others have shown, this mysteriously correlates to quite a high degree with the business interests of the researchers, who for some reason dpn&#8217;t often publish results which would lower the revenue of their funders.</p>
<p>We stop short however of stating so blatantly your apparently reflex suspicion of the motivations of researchers, whether conscious or not.  Given that human motivations are rarely simple, it seems unfair to accuse people of sheer crookedness if many factors are at work, some of them probably sheer incompetence and stupidity and other unconscious factors.  </p>
<p>Yet as you know in AIDS many of the drug studies are useless for lack of controls and the entire literature assumes that the cause of immune deficiency is HIV without any good reason and innumerable reasons against this presumption, It is clear from their actions to resist review that the leaders of the field are fully aware that their tens of thousands of papers are corrupted at their core and outsiders could easily see this if the critics were allowed to gain a major media platform.</p>
<p>Whether autism research is similarly corrupted by poor design and reasoning we don&#8217;t know.  Certainly the parents of autistic children and their supporters are sure there is a correlation between vaccines and their child&#8217;s handicap.   The suspicion that the mercury in vaccines was causing the problem seems now, however, to be ruled out, since autism diagnoses are as high or higher than ever even though the mercury laden preservative has been removed from vaccines for two years now, we believe.  Perhaps you know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Baby Pong</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/christine-maggiore-dies-but-not-of-hiv.htm/comment-page-3#comment-6871</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby Pong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Six studies, you say? Six major studies done by the medical establishment and published in prestigious journals? How could they possibly be wrong?

I guess it didn&#039;t occur to you that the studies just might have been designed and executed by researchers who were fully aware that, if they found that vaccines cause autism, they would be blacklisted from any future research, probably fired or demoted, and their names and reputations dragged through the cesspool. And equally aware that, if they found that vaccines don&#039;t cause autism, they would continue being rich, respected researchers, with ever more funding directed their way by the Faucis of the world.

Yes, I too have skimmed web headlines saying things like &quot;A child has died from a preventable disease&quot; which was in one of the science mags. Why don&#039;t they write stories like that every time a child dies from after-effects of vaccination, which happens so often that the US govt set up a fund to compensate the parents of vaccine-killed and injured children (to spare the drug companies the financial liability). They don&#039;t report those stories, you may have noticed. What causes this curious state of reportorial affairs??? Could it be drug industry influence and ad dollars perchance?

Here is a good article on the Shaken Baby subject by our friend Mohammed Al-Bayati.

http://www.taap.info/Man117_129.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Six studies, you say? Six major studies done by the medical establishment and published in prestigious journals? How could they possibly be wrong?</p>
<p>I guess it didn&#8217;t occur to you that the studies just might have been designed and executed by researchers who were fully aware that, if they found that vaccines cause autism, they would be blacklisted from any future research, probably fired or demoted, and their names and reputations dragged through the cesspool. And equally aware that, if they found that vaccines don&#8217;t cause autism, they would continue being rich, respected researchers, with ever more funding directed their way by the Faucis of the world.</p>
<p>Yes, I too have skimmed web headlines saying things like &#8220;A child has died from a preventable disease&#8221; which was in one of the science mags. Why don&#8217;t they write stories like that every time a child dies from after-effects of vaccination, which happens so often that the US govt set up a fund to compensate the parents of vaccine-killed and injured children (to spare the drug companies the financial liability). They don&#8217;t report those stories, you may have noticed. What causes this curious state of reportorial affairs??? Could it be drug industry influence and ad dollars perchance?</p>
<p>Here is a good article on the Shaken Baby subject by our friend Mohammed Al-Bayati.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.taap.info/Man117_129.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.taap.info/Man117_129.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/christine-maggiore-dies-but-not-of-hiv.htm/comment-page-3#comment-6870</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 07:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pong, don&#039;t cases where Shaken Baby Syndrome is alleged and then used to convict need some corroboration in evidence of blood clots or whatever suggests a shaken baby?  Also, you are aware that the six major mainstream studies found no correlation between vaccines and autism, right?

On the topic of vaccines they are now reporting that fear of vaccines has resulted in resurgent disease, according to a headline we skimmed in the last few days. 

What&#039;s the best reliable - scientifically reliable if possible - website on this topic you would recommend to newcomers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pong, don&#8217;t cases where Shaken Baby Syndrome is alleged and then used to convict need some corroboration in evidence of blood clots or whatever suggests a shaken baby?  Also, you are aware that the six major mainstream studies found no correlation between vaccines and autism, right?</p>
<p>On the topic of vaccines they are now reporting that fear of vaccines has resulted in resurgent disease, according to a headline we skimmed in the last few days. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the best reliable &#8211; scientifically reliable if possible &#8211; website on this topic you would recommend to newcomers?</p>
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		<title>By: Baby Pong</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/christine-maggiore-dies-but-not-of-hiv.htm/comment-page-3#comment-6867</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby Pong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i haven&#039;t read the links and didn&#039;t even know what a &quot;dingo&quot; was until I googled it. You should know by now that Pong is always on the Devil&#039;s side. But this case sounds a bit like &quot;Shaken Baby Syndrome&quot; in which parents are blamed for a baby&#039;s death that was probably really caused by vaccination. They even get doctors to testify about the new syndrome. And parents are convicted (I think some have been convicted) without any evidence, just on the doctor&#039;s assurance that the parents must have shaken the baby to death. And the med establishment that enforce vaccination doctrine with the same ridicule-demean-but-don&#039;t-debate tactic that they use with H skeptics, escape scot-free, by the age-old technique -- find a scapegoat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i haven&#8217;t read the links and didn&#8217;t even know what a &#8220;dingo&#8221; was until I googled it. You should know by now that Pong is always on the Devil&#8217;s side. But this case sounds a bit like &#8220;Shaken Baby Syndrome&#8221; in which parents are blamed for a baby&#8217;s death that was probably really caused by vaccination. They even get doctors to testify about the new syndrome. And parents are convicted (I think some have been convicted) without any evidence, just on the doctor&#8217;s assurance that the parents must have shaken the baby to death. And the med establishment that enforce vaccination doctrine with the same ridicule-demean-but-don&#8217;t-debate tactic that they use with H skeptics, escape scot-free, by the age-old technique &#8212; find a scapegoat.</p>
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