Comments on: Crowe on Adelaide http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm Reviewing scientific paradigms and other general beliefs in the light of the scientific and professional literature Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:57:56 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: marcel http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm/comment-page-1#comment-4524 marcel Sun, 06 May 2007 16:05:21 +0000 http://www.paradigmoverthrow.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm#comment-4524 Absolutely brilliant analysis by David Crowe. BTW, TS, I don't want to LEAD any "Don't Get Tested" movement. I want somebody else to do it. I'm willing to write some ads and slogans for bumperstickers and posters, that's all :o) If somebody would put up the money for TV, I'd write TV spots, but probably there ain't a TV station in the world that would run them. Absolutely brilliant analysis by David Crowe.

BTW, TS, I don’t want to LEAD any “Don’t Get Tested” movement. I want somebody else to do it. I’m willing to write some ads and slogans for bumperstickers and posters, that’s all :o )

If somebody would put up the money for TV, I’d write TV spots, but probably there ain’t a TV station in the world that would run them.

]]> By: Truthseeker http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm/comment-page-1#comment-4523 Truthseeker Sun, 06 May 2007 07:41:10 +0000 http://www.paradigmoverthrow.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm#comment-4523 This seems a small but perfectly acceptable correction. You don't want us to use the phrase "AIDS test" which the officials, press and public we address use colloquially, but "HIV test", which is more accurate. OK. No need to use any contemptuous language to make a correction, and people should know that though we are not the scientifically andpolitically censorious John P. Moore we will censor all insults of any kind, including our own, if they slip by and are pointed out. Anyway we agree that precision is always best. But sometimes we use the words and ideas of others in a slightly ironic spirit. This seems a small but perfectly acceptable correction. You don’t want us to use the phrase “AIDS test” which the officials, press and public we address use colloquially, but “HIV test”, which is more accurate. OK. No need to use any contemptuous language to make a correction, and people should know that though we are not the scientifically andpolitically censorious John P. Moore we will censor all insults of any kind, including our own, if they slip by and are pointed out.

Anyway we agree that precision is always best. But sometimes we use the words and ideas of others in a slightly ironic spirit.

]]> By: MacDonald http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm/comment-page-1#comment-4522 MacDonald Sat, 05 May 2007 08:18:04 +0000 http://www.paradigmoverthrow.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm#comment-4522 Ok, let me make it crystal: You can reduce the quote to <i>AIDS test</i> and it would still be self-defeating. An HIV antibody test is not an AIDS test. If that were so, the case, Duesberg's, Parenzee's and Perth's alike, would be lost before it began. Ok, let me make it crystal:

You can reduce the quote to AIDS test and it would still be self-defeating. An HIV antibody test is not an AIDS test. If that were so, the case, Duesberg’s, Parenzee’s and Perth’s alike, would be lost before it began.

]]> By: Truthseeker http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm/comment-page-1#comment-4519 Truthseeker Sat, 05 May 2007 04:47:36 +0000 http://www.paradigmoverthrow.com/blog/crowe-on-adelaide.htm#comment-4519 MacDonald, the complete sentence reads "<i>The idea of penalizing people with barbaric sanctions for sleeping with women without informing them of a positive AIDS test is a distortion of public policy.</i> Perhaps we should have said "good public policy" just to make it clear that the sentence is on a different point than the validity of the test. What you mean with the rest of your post is not very clear to us, but you seem to be saying that any witness who accepts the positive AIDS test of this prisoner as a fact is a fool, in this case your long suffering host. But surely his positive AIDS test <i>is</i> a fact however accurate or inaccurate and whatever it means or doesn't mean scientifically, and such a result has vile consequences in terms of misguided medical treatment, and barbaric social and legal sanctions. Surely Marcel Girodian is totally correct in leading a movement against being tested, and we support him 100%. There is no more dangerous trend than the CDC led march toward universal testing, and we hope you will support the fight against it. MacDonald, the complete sentence reads “The idea of penalizing people with barbaric sanctions for sleeping with women without informing them of a positive AIDS test is a distortion of public policy. Perhaps we should have said “good public policy” just to make it clear that the sentence is on a different point than the validity of the test.

What you mean with the rest of your post is not very clear to us, but you seem to be saying that any witness who accepts the positive AIDS test of this prisoner as a fact is a fool, in this case your long suffering host. But surely his positive AIDS test is a fact however accurate or inaccurate and whatever it means or doesn’t mean scientifically, and such a result has vile consequences in terms of misguided medical treatment, and barbaric social and legal sanctions. Surely Marcel Girodian is totally correct in leading a movement against being tested, and we support him 100%. There is no more dangerous trend than the CDC led march toward universal testing, and we hope you will support the fight against it.

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