Comments on: Brush fires in South Africa http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm Reviewing scientific paradigms and other general beliefs in the light of the scientific and professional literature Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:57:56 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michael http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5937 Michael Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:23:24 +0000 http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm#comment-5937 Well said!, Cervantes! Well said. Had I known you were there, I certainly would have seen to it that you too had joined us at Guapo's, and next time you shall I hope. I hope to meet you there the next time I go to DC, which event seems may be happening sooner then later, as I find the area quite inspiring, myself. Well said!, Cervantes! Well said.

Had I known you were there, I certainly would have seen to it that you too had joined us at Guapo’s, and next time you shall I hope. I hope to meet you there the next time I go to DC, which event seems may be happening sooner then later, as I find the area quite inspiring, myself.

]]> By: cervantes http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5936 cervantes Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:39:46 +0000 http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm#comment-5936 Michael, You mean there's another HIV dissident within a stone's throw from the Cathedral??! Not that I know - well, there is one. However, I can attest the fine citizens of Cleveland Park (the National Cathedral neighborhood - typical single family home goes for $2+ million) have exercised their own high-brow civil disobedience against authority and refuse to be herded down to the testing clinics. Perhaps in truth because they don't want to know the truth, that being the fashion in the Nation's Capital. Or perhaps because nobody they have known (or consorted with) in the last 25 years has fallen to the HIV-plague, so they have nothing to fear, so why go? Actually, a little common sense by osmosis has seeped into them it seems, enough to not needlessly be frightened into being tested - by Orasure no less (should be call Orastupid, as in 'are you stupid' enough to be tested). Nevertheless, every last Cleveland Park citizen (except one, anyway), probably the highest educated of all DC (and even the Planet Earth), after 25 years of propaganda from the Washington Post (and Wash. Times, or more likely the NY Times that most get), truly believes HIV is deadly, and that Africa is perishing from it. But, nobody dies in Cleveland Park, or even gets sick except from a flu vaccination shot, so that's that. The good government will send another $10 billion a year via PEPFAR (the amount in the current pending legislation) to feel good. That the citizenry of Cleveland Park has been expertly guided so narrowly, never pausing to think, attests to how far the American culture has become spellbound, and has fallen for the pronouncements of Fauci, and advertisements of the Pharmas, not to mention ex-President Clinton, and Bush, et al. proudly telling the country the U.S. will save the day not just from HIV, but from Bird Flu (H5N1), etc., Plagues kept ever looming on the horizon by Fauci and CDC, ever maximizing their budgets and mind control. To directly answer your question, to wrap it up, I was not at the restaurant you mentioned -- . Michael, You mean there’s another HIV dissident within a stone’s throw from the Cathedral??! Not that I know – well, there is one. However, I can attest the fine citizens of Cleveland Park (the National Cathedral neighborhood – typical single family home goes for $2+ million) have exercised their own high-brow civil disobedience against authority and refuse to be herded down to the testing clinics. Perhaps in truth because they don’t want to know the truth, that being the fashion in the Nation’s Capital. Or perhaps because nobody they have known (or consorted with) in the last 25 years has fallen to the HIV-plague, so they have nothing to fear, so why go? Actually, a little common sense by osmosis has seeped into them it seems, enough to not needlessly be frightened into being tested – by Orasure no less (should be call Orastupid, as in ‘are you stupid’ enough to be tested).

Nevertheless, every last Cleveland Park citizen (except one, anyway), probably the highest educated of all DC (and even the Planet Earth), after 25 years of propaganda from the Washington Post (and Wash. Times, or more likely the NY Times that most get), truly believes HIV is deadly, and that Africa is perishing from it. But, nobody dies in Cleveland Park, or even gets sick except from a flu vaccination shot, so that’s that.

The good government will send another $10 billion a year via PEPFAR (the amount in the current pending legislation) to feel good. That the citizenry of Cleveland Park has been expertly guided so narrowly, never pausing to think, attests to how far the American culture has become spellbound, and has fallen for the pronouncements of Fauci, and advertisements of the Pharmas, not to mention ex-President Clinton, and Bush, et al. proudly telling the country the U.S. will save the day not just from HIV, but from Bird Flu (H5N1), etc., Plagues kept ever looming on the horizon by Fauci and CDC, ever maximizing their budgets and mind control.

To directly answer your question, to wrap it up, I was not at the restaurant you mentioned — .

]]> By: Michael http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5935 Michael Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:08:38 +0000 http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm#comment-5935 Cervantes. Are you by any chance the fine gentleman that I had the pleasure of meeting, sharing a dinner with your wife and mutual friends, and sitting beside at Guapo's near the National Cathedral a couple of weeks ago? Cervantes.

Are you by any chance the fine gentleman that I had the pleasure of meeting, sharing a dinner with your wife and mutual friends, and sitting beside at Guapo’s near the National Cathedral a couple of weeks ago?

]]> By: cervantes http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5934 cervantes Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:06:44 +0000 http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/dissent-in-south-africa-not-over.htm#comment-5934 Michael, Thanks for your corroboration, and for citing Orasure being the test vehicle. As you have pointed out, it is absurdly flawed as to specificity, but whatever it does test is contained in human saliva. So, now the mainstay tests for HIV "antibodies" are tests of: (1) blood; (2) saliva (Orasure). The logical progression will be to test perspiration, then on to breath molecules, and no doubt (like blood pressure cuffs at the drugstores and supermarkets) there will be soon a machine you can breathe into to get an HIV antibody reading, with the CDC spending a few $billion per year to supply these machines. Hey, who cares, as long as CDC heroically guides the sheep to their fate. After all, how else can the whole U.S. population be tested? -- 'cause they sure won't march down to the free clinics as demonstrated in DC, or voluntarily serve prison-time in lieu of paying parking tickets (thus be tested in the DC prison). Meanwhile, the last two Federal budgets of 2007 and 2008 both spread $23 billion around the U.S., mainly for HIV testing, exorbitant retroviral drugs given out like candy by such as the Whitman-Walker clinic in DC, and housing/assistance programs for those "HIV+." You are spot on when you talk about the higher-ups nation-scene politico that get rich by affiliations with the drug companies; here on the local DC scene no doubt this is repeated at the local level. To date, the U.S.Federal spending for HIV/AIDS has now reached, adjusted to equal dollars, 50-60% the entire amount spent be the U.S. for the Viet Nam War; and twice that spent for the Apollo program to send our missions to the moon. Adding in non-federal spending, it is fair to say U.S. HIV/AIDS spending has passed that for Viet Nam, yet AIDS deaths continue at 17,000 every year, and the public stays completely ignorant the deaths are 99% iatrogenic. A utterly masterful job by Fauci and Gallo et al. conning not only the public, but the vaunted free press. Michael, Thanks for your corroboration, and for citing Orasure being the test vehicle. As you have pointed out, it is absurdly flawed as to specificity, but whatever it does test is contained in human saliva. So, now the mainstay tests for HIV “antibodies” are tests of: (1) blood; (2) saliva (Orasure). The logical progression will be to test perspiration, then on to breath molecules, and no doubt (like blood pressure cuffs at the drugstores and supermarkets) there will be soon a machine you can breathe into to get an HIV antibody reading, with the CDC spending a few $billion per year to supply these machines. Hey, who cares, as long as CDC heroically guides the sheep to their fate. After all, how else can the whole U.S. population be tested? — ’cause they sure won’t march down to the free clinics as demonstrated in DC, or voluntarily serve prison-time in lieu of paying parking tickets (thus be tested in the DC prison).

Meanwhile, the last two Federal budgets of 2007 and 2008 both spread $23 billion around the U.S., mainly for HIV testing, exorbitant retroviral drugs given out like candy by such as the Whitman-Walker clinic in DC, and housing/assistance programs for those “HIV+.” You are spot on when you talk about the higher-ups nation-scene politico that get rich by affiliations with the drug companies; here on the local DC scene no doubt this is repeated at the local level.

To date, the U.S.Federal spending for HIV/AIDS has now reached, adjusted to equal dollars, 50-60% the entire amount spent be the U.S. for the Viet Nam War; and twice that spent for the Apollo program to send our missions to the moon. Adding in non-federal spending, it is fair to say U.S. HIV/AIDS spending has passed that for Viet Nam, yet AIDS deaths continue at 17,000 every year, and the public stays completely ignorant the deaths are 99% iatrogenic. A utterly masterful job by Fauci and Gallo et al. conning not only the public, but the vaunted free press.

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