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		<title>By: yello</title>
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		<dc:creator>yello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;ello Truthseeker Sir.

What has happened to the Anthony Fauci Lasker award article?

I just saw another blurb about it here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/15/AR2007091501456.html

((Nice item, y&#039;ello.  Here is the text in full for reference - Ed.))

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NIH Official Wins Prestigious Prize

By Miranda S. Spivack
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 16, 2007; C03

Anthony S. Fauci, a pioneering AIDS researcher, bioterrorism expert and high-ranking official at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, was one of four scientists named yesterday to receive the prestigious Lasker Foundation awards for medical research.

Fauci, 66, who received the Mary Woodard Lasker public service award, has headed the $4.4 billion National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at NIH for nearly 23 years.

He will receive the $150,000 award at a ceremony in New York this month. He said yesterday that he was &quot;humbled and gratified&quot; to be cited for public service.

Two surgeons who developed prosthetic heart valves, Alain Carpentier of Paris and Albert Starr of Portland, Ore., were selected as Albert Lasker award winners in clinical research.

More than 300,000 people a year worldwide get heart valves replaced in what is the second most common heart surgery in the United States, the foundation said.

Ralph M. Steinman of Rockefeller University in New York was awarded the Albert Lasker prize for basic medical research for discovering dendritic cells, which initiate the body&#039;s response to foreign antigens.

Albert Lasker, an advertising executive, and his wife, Mary, a noted art collector, founded the awards more than 60 years ago to raise public awareness of the value of biomedical research. The Lasker prizes are considered the nation&#039;s most prestigious for medicine.

Fauci, a District resident, who received a National Medal of Science from President Bush this year, has served as a key White House adviser in the fight against bioterrorism, helping lead efforts to develop vaccines and drugs to counter potential bioterrorist microbes such as anthrax, smallpox and Ebola.

Fauci also helps direct the president&#039;s emergency plan for AIDS relief, focused in sub-Saharan African and other parts of the Third World. Fauci said much of his recent work has focused on trying to stem AIDS transmission from mother to child.

The Lasker Foundation cited Fauci as &quot;a world-class investigator&quot; who &quot;has spoken eloquently on behalf of medical science to the public, Congress and successive administrations.&quot;

At NIH, Fauci oversees a research program aimed at preventing, diagnosing and treating infectious diseases. He also has his own lab to conduct research.

Fauci graduated from College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Mass., received his medical degree from Cornell University and joined NIH in 1968.

Fauci said he and his wife, Christine, would probably use the award to help pay for college tuition for their three daughters. &quot;It&#039;s called &#039;sending your children to school,&#039; &quot; he said with a chuckle.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;ello Truthseeker Sir.</p>
<p>What has happened to the Anthony Fauci Lasker award article?</p>
<p>I just saw another blurb about it here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/15/AR2007091501456.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/15/AR2007091501456.html</a></p>
<p>((Nice item, y&#8217;ello.  Here is the text in full for reference &#8211; Ed.))</p>
<p><i>washingtonpost.com</p>
<p>NIH Official Wins Prestigious Prize</p>
<p>By Miranda S. Spivack<br />
Washington Post Staff Writer<br />
Sunday, September 16, 2007; C03</p>
<p>Anthony S. Fauci, a pioneering AIDS researcher, bioterrorism expert and high-ranking official at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, was one of four scientists named yesterday to receive the prestigious Lasker Foundation awards for medical research.</p>
<p>Fauci, 66, who received the Mary Woodard Lasker public service award, has headed the $4.4 billion National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at NIH for nearly 23 years.</p>
<p>He will receive the $150,000 award at a ceremony in New York this month. He said yesterday that he was &#8220;humbled and gratified&#8221; to be cited for public service.</p>
<p>Two surgeons who developed prosthetic heart valves, Alain Carpentier of Paris and Albert Starr of Portland, Ore., were selected as Albert Lasker award winners in clinical research.</p>
<p>More than 300,000 people a year worldwide get heart valves replaced in what is the second most common heart surgery in the United States, the foundation said.</p>
<p>Ralph M. Steinman of Rockefeller University in New York was awarded the Albert Lasker prize for basic medical research for discovering dendritic cells, which initiate the body&#8217;s response to foreign antigens.</p>
<p>Albert Lasker, an advertising executive, and his wife, Mary, a noted art collector, founded the awards more than 60 years ago to raise public awareness of the value of biomedical research. The Lasker prizes are considered the nation&#8217;s most prestigious for medicine.</p>
<p>Fauci, a District resident, who received a National Medal of Science from President Bush this year, has served as a key White House adviser in the fight against bioterrorism, helping lead efforts to develop vaccines and drugs to counter potential bioterrorist microbes such as anthrax, smallpox and Ebola.</p>
<p>Fauci also helps direct the president&#8217;s emergency plan for AIDS relief, focused in sub-Saharan African and other parts of the Third World. Fauci said much of his recent work has focused on trying to stem AIDS transmission from mother to child.</p>
<p>The Lasker Foundation cited Fauci as &#8220;a world-class investigator&#8221; who &#8220;has spoken eloquently on behalf of medical science to the public, Congress and successive administrations.&#8221;</p>
<p>At NIH, Fauci oversees a research program aimed at preventing, diagnosing and treating infectious diseases. He also has his own lab to conduct research.</p>
<p>Fauci graduated from College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Mass., received his medical degree from Cornell University and joined NIH in 1968.</p>
<p>Fauci said he and his wife, Christine, would probably use the award to help pay for college tuition for their three daughters. &#8220;It&#8217;s called &#8217;sending your children to school,&#8217; &#8221; he said with a chuckle.<br />
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		<title>By: hhbauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>hhbauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are spot-on re Derek Price and his insights. A more recent very insightful writer about science was John Ziman (solid-state physicist FRS turned later to science studies). In &quot;Prometheus Bound&quot; (1994) he described detailed consequences of the change from little science to Big Science, most tellingly the morphing of traditional Mertonian norms of disinterested inquiry and loyalty to science-as-truth into norms consistent with loyalty to the sources of funding.
As you say, this has made paradigms more entrenched and paradigm change even more difficult. I&#039;ve described the contemporary situation as the existence of knowledge monopolies and research cartels, see www.henryhbauer.homestead.com/21stCenturyScience.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are spot-on re Derek Price and his insights. A more recent very insightful writer about science was John Ziman (solid-state physicist FRS turned later to science studies). In &#8220;Prometheus Bound&#8221; (1994) he described detailed consequences of the change from little science to Big Science, most tellingly the morphing of traditional Mertonian norms of disinterested inquiry and loyalty to science-as-truth into norms consistent with loyalty to the sources of funding.<br />
As you say, this has made paradigms more entrenched and paradigm change even more difficult. I&#8217;ve described the contemporary situation as the existence of knowledge monopolies and research cartels, see <a href="http://www.henryhbauer.homestead.com/21stCenturyScience.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.henryhbauer.homestead.com/21stCenturyScience.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The data from the feds (CDC et al.) for the last decade has clearly (and loudly) cited American black women to be at least 10 - 20 times, per capita, the HIV or Aids rate compared to white women.  This is true for a host of reasons: 1) Virtually all pregnant women, white and black, are tested with the terribly inaccurate &quot;HIV&quot; tests, and per capita, black women are more likely to have endogenous cellular material that reacts &#039;positive;&#039;  2) The poorer segments living in/around inner city conditions (obviously black neighborhoods) are also much more likely to have had poor health conditions and/or have been injection drug participants, and thus bring about &#039;positivity&#039; (as dubious as it is with regard to specificity);  3) All the tests are also judged with discretion as to the woman being tested, with a typically affluent white judged differently than the &#039;at-risk&#039; inner city populations.   

A ludicrous situation exists here in Washington, DC where clamoring and publicity has promoted ALL DC&#039;ers, aged 14 to 84, be tested for HIV!  And at no expense - just come on down to any of the many centers that will test one.  Well, there are recent front page Washington Post stories that virtually the only citizens so far tested (the last 6 months) have been prisoners and at clinics and hospitals treating emergency room patients, and, of course, at the Whitman Walker Clinic mostly frequented by the Gay populace, with most of Whitman Walker funding by the Pharma companies promoting their wares, now morphed into one-a-day Atripla*.  The good white citizens of Cleveland Park, Georgetown, and Chevy Chase have flouted their civic responsibility(!) and exercised civil disobedience ala Henry David Thoreau.  

Thus, the only definitive study of Washington DC (titled The HIV/AIDS Epidemiological Profile for the District of Columbia 2004) cites 43 white women since 1980 have acquired an &quot;AIDS&quot; diagnosis ascribed to heterosexual activity, a grand total of 2 per year.  Of course, this includes &quot;AIDS&quot; cases that consist only of a positive test and  low white blood cell counts as per the 1993 CDC definition that was also retro-figured backward  from 1993. Interestingly this DC report fails to cite actual AIDS deaths, and it is highly likely that many, if not most of these women are healthy and fine today if they have resisted the toxic antivirals and protease inhibitors.  At any rate, it all becomes quite clear that refusing HIV tests results in taking no treatment drugs, hence virtually no fatalities, hence the real life experience of lots of heterosexual activity yet with few disease consequences, and for sure, not AIDS, since almost none test HIV-positive (whatever that means).

* I totally agree that less toxicity as drugs have evolved away from AZT, even though HAART contained 600 mgs AZT per day in the Combivir doses, shilled by Magic Johnson, as you point out.  The new one-a-day Atripla now has ZERO mgs of AZT, and ZERO mgs of protease inhibitors, touted and pushed for 10 years since 1996 and resulting in the 17,000 deaths per year.   So, the treatments are now 1/3 the milligram/day strength of HAART, and the acclaimed AZT and PI&#039;s assigned to the rubbish bin, with absolutely no acknowledgment they brought misery and death.  Clearly, in a few years, the newest HIV treatment drugs will be apricot-coated isotopic aspirin, and at $20 a day (price protected by patents, of course), the Pharma Industry and Fauci will tap dance off the stage after announcing they have conquered HIV with their miraculous new treatment - still funded at $25+ Billion a year by our tax dollars, and with EVERYBODY marched at bayonet point to be tested (though bayonet funding has not yet been  funded) to protect the Public Health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The data from the feds (CDC et al.) for the last decade has clearly (and loudly) cited American black women to be at least 10 &#8211; 20 times, per capita, the HIV or Aids rate compared to white women.  This is true for a host of reasons: 1) Virtually all pregnant women, white and black, are tested with the terribly inaccurate &#8220;HIV&#8221; tests, and per capita, black women are more likely to have endogenous cellular material that reacts &#8216;positive;&#8217;  2) The poorer segments living in/around inner city conditions (obviously black neighborhoods) are also much more likely to have had poor health conditions and/or have been injection drug participants, and thus bring about &#8216;positivity&#8217; (as dubious as it is with regard to specificity);  3) All the tests are also judged with discretion as to the woman being tested, with a typically affluent white judged differently than the &#8216;at-risk&#8217; inner city populations.   </p>
<p>A ludicrous situation exists here in Washington, DC where clamoring and publicity has promoted ALL DC&#8217;ers, aged 14 to 84, be tested for HIV!  And at no expense &#8211; just come on down to any of the many centers that will test one.  Well, there are recent front page Washington Post stories that virtually the only citizens so far tested (the last 6 months) have been prisoners and at clinics and hospitals treating emergency room patients, and, of course, at the Whitman Walker Clinic mostly frequented by the Gay populace, with most of Whitman Walker funding by the Pharma companies promoting their wares, now morphed into one-a-day Atripla*.  The good white citizens of Cleveland Park, Georgetown, and Chevy Chase have flouted their civic responsibility(!) and exercised civil disobedience ala Henry David Thoreau.  </p>
<p>Thus, the only definitive study of Washington DC (titled The HIV/AIDS Epidemiological Profile for the District of Columbia 2004) cites 43 white women since 1980 have acquired an &#8220;AIDS&#8221; diagnosis ascribed to heterosexual activity, a grand total of 2 per year.  Of course, this includes &#8220;AIDS&#8221; cases that consist only of a positive test and  low white blood cell counts as per the 1993 CDC definition that was also retro-figured backward  from 1993. Interestingly this DC report fails to cite actual AIDS deaths, and it is highly likely that many, if not most of these women are healthy and fine today if they have resisted the toxic antivirals and protease inhibitors.  At any rate, it all becomes quite clear that refusing HIV tests results in taking no treatment drugs, hence virtually no fatalities, hence the real life experience of lots of heterosexual activity yet with few disease consequences, and for sure, not AIDS, since almost none test HIV-positive (whatever that means).</p>
<p>* I totally agree that less toxicity as drugs have evolved away from AZT, even though HAART contained 600 mgs AZT per day in the Combivir doses, shilled by Magic Johnson, as you point out.  The new one-a-day Atripla now has ZERO mgs of AZT, and ZERO mgs of protease inhibitors, touted and pushed for 10 years since 1996 and resulting in the 17,000 deaths per year.   So, the treatments are now 1/3 the milligram/day strength of HAART, and the acclaimed AZT and PI&#8217;s assigned to the rubbish bin, with absolutely no acknowledgment they brought misery and death.  Clearly, in a few years, the newest HIV treatment drugs will be apricot-coated isotopic aspirin, and at $20 a day (price protected by patents, of course), the Pharma Industry and Fauci will tap dance off the stage after announcing they have conquered HIV with their miraculous new treatment &#8211; still funded at $25+ Billion a year by our tax dollars, and with EVERYBODY marched at bayonet point to be tested (though bayonet funding has not yet been  funded) to protect the Public Health.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthseeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you think that the Canadians are more suspicious of this because of David Crowe&#039;s and HEAL&#039;s efforts there?   That&#039;s encouraging.   Presumably journalist Colman Jones and a general suspicion of the big bad neighbor&#039;s covetous tendencies played a part too.  

The degree to which American whites are not taking their meds would be interesting to pin down, if there&#039;s a study.  has to be the other factor which keeps people alive, the first being the continual effort to reduce the toxicity.

The targeting of black Americans is particularly objectionable, though I believe that it will be somewhat ameliorated by the lively suspicion of the authorities that I find in Harlem, which is still economically underprivileged in NYC as far as hiring goes, though real estate is booming there now with high rises being built, one by Harlem Meer to spoil the pristine pseudo rural landscape with all its splendid geese and ducks.  Meanwhile there are large bus stop ads along 125 th Street going past Clinton&#039;s office, featuring a Magic Johnson with his big white grin urging all to go get their HIV test because &quot;Blacks and Latinos make up 81% of all new HIV cases in New York City&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think that the Canadians are more suspicious of this because of David Crowe&#8217;s and HEAL&#8217;s efforts there?   That&#8217;s encouraging.   Presumably journalist Colman Jones and a general suspicion of the big bad neighbor&#8217;s covetous tendencies played a part too.  </p>
<p>The degree to which American whites are not taking their meds would be interesting to pin down, if there&#8217;s a study.  has to be the other factor which keeps people alive, the first being the continual effort to reduce the toxicity.</p>
<p>The targeting of black Americans is particularly objectionable, though I believe that it will be somewhat ameliorated by the lively suspicion of the authorities that I find in Harlem, which is still economically underprivileged in NYC as far as hiring goes, though real estate is booming there now with high rises being built, one by Harlem Meer to spoil the pristine pseudo rural landscape with all its splendid geese and ducks.  Meanwhile there are large bus stop ads along 125 th Street going past Clinton&#8217;s office, featuring a Magic Johnson with his big white grin urging all to go get their HIV test because &#8220;Blacks and Latinos make up 81% of all new HIV cases in New York City&#8221;.</p>
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