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		<title>By: yello</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/house-of-numbers-is-quietly-explosive.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8092</link>
		<dc:creator>yello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orac and his ditto heads are still whining....

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/10/the_2009_recipient_of_the_richard_dawkin_1.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orac and his ditto heads are still whining&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/10/the_2009_recipient_of_the_richard_dawkin_1.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/10/the_2009_recipient_of_the_richard_dawkin_1.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/house-of-numbers-is-quietly-explosive.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8091</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diverted by the Audio Engineering Society this weekend at Javits, we haven&#039;t got to the whole Numbers game picture for a good post, but it has changed radically, it turns out, C, thank you for your ref., and a post is on the front burner for good reason - this thoroughly defeats the last justification of HIV/AIDS in the minds of politicians such as Bill &quot;But the drugs work, don&#039;t they?&quot; Clinton.  The HIV Deniers (those who deny that the HIV hypothesis has exploded far and wide in the manner of the fat man who eats too much in Monty Python&#039;s &quot;Meaning of Life&quot;) cannot handle this one, so they ignore it when mentioned.

Meanwhile the Thai vaccine trial is another grand debacle since Science and the WSJ have exposed it as less even than claimed last month, well into the statistically insignificant area, and thus in line with the ongoing idea that a vaccine is the dumbest idea in HIV/AIDS of all, since HIV works perfectly well to create immunity against itself.  Now even the Times is beating up on Fauci who is reduced to saying things like &quot;they are not stupid&quot; when hauled onto the carpet by the reporter ie the representative of the grand arbiter of truth and justice in the US, the NYT, who mentions suspicions of a &quot;cover up&quot;.  This is a turn for the better which might trigger an intern at the White House who is ambitious enough to make something of it, and can get around the super agreeable Harold Varmus, the man who got the Nobel Duesberg deserved. 

See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/health/research/11hiv.html?_r=1&amp;scp=3&amp;sq=aids%20vaccine&amp;st=cse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Success of AIDS Vaccine Trial Is at Issue&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Is HIV/AIDS crumbling of its own unsustainable assumptions?  Even the Times is now willing to mention the attempt to cover up a total failure!  

Perhaps we will get another Op Ed piece by John Moore debunking anyone who lacks faith in microbicides (his total failure), vaccines (total failure) and drugs (total failure).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diverted by the Audio Engineering Society this weekend at Javits, we haven&#8217;t got to the whole Numbers game picture for a good post, but it has changed radically, it turns out, C, thank you for your ref., and a post is on the front burner for good reason &#8211; this thoroughly defeats the last justification of HIV/AIDS in the minds of politicians such as Bill &#8220;But the drugs work, don&#8217;t they?&#8221; Clinton.  The HIV Deniers (those who deny that the HIV hypothesis has exploded far and wide in the manner of the fat man who eats too much in Monty Python&#8217;s &#8220;Meaning of Life&#8221;) cannot handle this one, so they ignore it when mentioned.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the Thai vaccine trial is another grand debacle since Science and the WSJ have exposed it as less even than claimed last month, well into the statistically insignificant area, and thus in line with the ongoing idea that a vaccine is the dumbest idea in HIV/AIDS of all, since HIV works perfectly well to create immunity against itself.  Now even the Times is beating up on Fauci who is reduced to saying things like &#8220;they are not stupid&#8221; when hauled onto the carpet by the reporter ie the representative of the grand arbiter of truth and justice in the US, the NYT, who mentions suspicions of a &#8220;cover up&#8221;.  This is a turn for the better which might trigger an intern at the White House who is ambitious enough to make something of it, and can get around the super agreeable Harold Varmus, the man who got the Nobel Duesberg deserved. </p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/health/research/11hiv.html?_r=1&#038;scp=3&#038;sq=aids%20vaccine&#038;st=cse" rel="nofollow"><b><u>Success of AIDS Vaccine Trial Is at Issue</u></b></a></p>
<p>Is HIV/AIDS crumbling of its own unsustainable assumptions?  Even the Times is now willing to mention the attempt to cover up a total failure!  </p>
<p>Perhaps we will get another Op Ed piece by John Moore debunking anyone who lacks faith in microbicides (his total failure), vaccines (total failure) and drugs (total failure).</p>
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		<title>By: cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TS, To quote your comment, &quot;the statistics which shows that AIDS deaths are rapidly approaching zero in every other Western nation&quot; may be (in part) sourced from an article of mine on the Rethinking AIDS (RA) website, put on RA about 5 months earlier, titled A Cure U.S. AIDS, Travel to Canada.

This piece may have reached Obama&#039;s Handlers, but little chance of  &#039;truth on the ground&#039; getting to His Highness himself - or to Lady Michelle for that matter, with Harry Varmus being their Disease Adviser.

As to Lohse et al.&#039;s Denmark Study:  Of everybody Hiv+ in Denmark, his statistics clearly show the longest life expectancy of those Hiv+ is those that eschew/decline antiviral drugs, approaching very close to &quot;normal&quot; life expectancy of the average Dane they were compared to. 

Lohse also dramatically shows how those on Early HAART kicked off in 1996 (3,300 mgs daily of AZT, 3TC, and Crixivan (protease inhibitors) died rather quickly from their meds - as you have cited yourself. 

Published January 16, 2007, in the Annals of Internal Medicine (Ann Intern Med. 2007; 146:87-95), titled &quot;Survival of Persons with and without HIV Infection in Denmark, 1995-2005,  the Denmark Study is remarkable, and cites &quot;Late HAART&quot; as the current regimen, sans AZT.

Bottom line, for those who can wade through their statistics:  Those Hiv+ declining/rejecting anti-Hive meds, particularly women, have mortality rates getting them very close to the average non-Hiv+ Dane.

Lohse&#039;s text (there are 7 other co-authors) also relates how most everybody &quot;Hiv+&quot; in Denmark have many other health toxicities, such as smoking, heroin, heavy alcohol abuse, etc., so it is hardly surprising a bit higher &quot;mortality rate&quot; in combination being Hiv+.

As many know, Hiv antibody &quot;positivity&quot; reflects many other conditions other than an actual reaction to &quot;Hiv&quot; antigens.  Even the most healthy of nuns sequestered since youth can be &quot;Hiv+&quot; as can your 80 year old neighbor if he/she got tested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TS, To quote your comment, &#8220;the statistics which shows that AIDS deaths are rapidly approaching zero in every other Western nation&#8221; may be (in part) sourced from an article of mine on the Rethinking AIDS (RA) website, put on RA about 5 months earlier, titled A Cure U.S. AIDS, Travel to Canada.</p>
<p>This piece may have reached Obama&#8217;s Handlers, but little chance of  &#8216;truth on the ground&#8217; getting to His Highness himself &#8211; or to Lady Michelle for that matter, with Harry Varmus being their Disease Adviser.</p>
<p>As to Lohse et al.&#8217;s Denmark Study:  Of everybody Hiv+ in Denmark, his statistics clearly show the longest life expectancy of those Hiv+ is those that eschew/decline antiviral drugs, approaching very close to &#8220;normal&#8221; life expectancy of the average Dane they were compared to. </p>
<p>Lohse also dramatically shows how those on Early HAART kicked off in 1996 (3,300 mgs daily of AZT, 3TC, and Crixivan (protease inhibitors) died rather quickly from their meds &#8211; as you have cited yourself. </p>
<p>Published January 16, 2007, in the Annals of Internal Medicine (Ann Intern Med. 2007; 146:87-95), titled &#8220;Survival of Persons with and without HIV Infection in Denmark, 1995-2005,  the Denmark Study is remarkable, and cites &#8220;Late HAART&#8221; as the current regimen, sans AZT.</p>
<p>Bottom line, for those who can wade through their statistics:  Those Hiv+ declining/rejecting anti-Hive meds, particularly women, have mortality rates getting them very close to the average non-Hiv+ Dane.</p>
<p>Lohse&#8217;s text (there are 7 other co-authors) also relates how most everybody &#8220;Hiv+&#8221; in Denmark have many other health toxicities, such as smoking, heroin, heavy alcohol abuse, etc., so it is hardly surprising a bit higher &#8220;mortality rate&#8221; in combination being Hiv+.</p>
<p>As many know, Hiv antibody &#8220;positivity&#8221; reflects many other conditions other than an actual reaction to &#8220;Hiv&#8221; antigens.  Even the most healthy of nuns sequestered since youth can be &#8220;Hiv+&#8221; as can your 80 year old neighbor if he/she got tested.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthseeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Spectator are willing to mount a showing of House of Numbers? This would follow their previous commendable action in carrying Rian Malan&#039;s report/reports from South Africa as to the difficulty that author had in location anything new and different ie actual &quot;AIDS&quot; in the hospitals or health statistics of his tormented country for Rolling Stone at the turn of the century, we believe.

Unfortunately we have too great  a backlog of vital posts to make on this site to fly across the Atlantic for October 28 with a calm mind, at least until they are published, which we hope will occur rapidly, in the manner of a potato hammered into the exhaust pipe of a Ferrari - either that or causing the engine to cease revolving altogether, which alternative metaphorically speaking sometimes seems the right thing to do here faced with the appalling behavior of the HIV gang on other sites such as the Humanist and the DumbnDumbee sites referred to above, which would be amusing if it weren&#039;t for the fact that gays&#039; health and lives are at stake, given their lemming-like enthusiasm for running over the cliff of HIV/AIDS theory and its noxious medications.   

Since they are apparently incapable of thinking for themselves in their weakened state we feel it is our duty to soldier on, but plan to turn to other topics and feature the work of other idealists which is not appreciated by the world at large, until our revulsion passes, in the same manner as avoiding whatever food causes food poisoning for a time once one has recovered from the stomach pains.

Of course the statistics which shows that AIDS deaths are rapidly approaching zero in every other Western nation suggest that they may not need rescue after all, though this is not in our eyes proof that the AIDS medications &quot;work&quot;, as the HIV defenders have it, but on the contrary, we note that it correlates significantly with the increasing absence of AZT from medications and also lately the substitution of other less harmful medications for protease inhibitors.   Given that deaths zoomed after AZT was introduced, and then declined when it was lowered in dose, and are now approaching zero as it was apparently banished completely from the regimen of docs prescribing ARVs since 2006, it appears that it is merely the result of not giving noxious poison to hapless HIV/AIDS patients who are unwilling to get a second opinion from someone not in the thrall of the utterly irrational HIV/AIDS paradigm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Spectator are willing to mount a showing of House of Numbers? This would follow their previous commendable action in carrying Rian Malan&#8217;s report/reports from South Africa as to the difficulty that author had in location anything new and different ie actual &#8220;AIDS&#8221; in the hospitals or health statistics of his tormented country for Rolling Stone at the turn of the century, we believe.</p>
<p>Unfortunately we have too great  a backlog of vital posts to make on this site to fly across the Atlantic for October 28 with a calm mind, at least until they are published, which we hope will occur rapidly, in the manner of a potato hammered into the exhaust pipe of a Ferrari &#8211; either that or causing the engine to cease revolving altogether, which alternative metaphorically speaking sometimes seems the right thing to do here faced with the appalling behavior of the HIV gang on other sites such as the Humanist and the DumbnDumbee sites referred to above, which would be amusing if it weren&#8217;t for the fact that gays&#8217; health and lives are at stake, given their lemming-like enthusiasm for running over the cliff of HIV/AIDS theory and its noxious medications.   </p>
<p>Since they are apparently incapable of thinking for themselves in their weakened state we feel it is our duty to soldier on, but plan to turn to other topics and feature the work of other idealists which is not appreciated by the world at large, until our revulsion passes, in the same manner as avoiding whatever food causes food poisoning for a time once one has recovered from the stomach pains.</p>
<p>Of course the statistics which shows that AIDS deaths are rapidly approaching zero in every other Western nation suggest that they may not need rescue after all, though this is not in our eyes proof that the AIDS medications &#8220;work&#8221;, as the HIV defenders have it, but on the contrary, we note that it correlates significantly with the increasing absence of AZT from medications and also lately the substitution of other less harmful medications for protease inhibitors.   Given that deaths zoomed after AZT was introduced, and then declined when it was lowered in dose, and are now approaching zero as it was apparently banished completely from the regimen of docs prescribing ARVs since 2006, it appears that it is merely the result of not giving noxious poison to hapless HIV/AIDS patients who are unwilling to get a second opinion from someone not in the thrall of the utterly irrational HIV/AIDS paradigm.</p>
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