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Libyan intervention by scientists


Scientists recognize nonsense as non-science

But will rethinkers quote the Bible now at these good folk?

As the Times notes today, the hapless Bulgarian nurses and Palestinian doctor, whose lives are still in the balance after years of the HIV∫AIDS paradigm being used as a political weapon against them, now have many more scientists coming to their defense.

The rehearing of the case ended without Montagnier and the Italian who testified earlier being called back. So the decision, which is scheduled for Dec 19, looked even less likely to be based on scientific sense that the previous one in 2004, which condemned the group to death as scapegoats for what the Libyan authorities apparently imagine is the Virus loose among hundreds of babes in one of their hospitals.

But Nature published an open letter from 114 Nobel Laureates to Qaddafi last week, asking for proper science to be applied. Perhaps this means testing the children again. Presumably the original testing was flawed, since the finding that so many babies at one hospital were HIV positive seems improbable on the face of it.

This week, on the Web site of the journal Nature, 114 Nobel laureates signed an open letter to Colonel Qaddafi. By not allowing —œindependent scientific evidence—? to be presented at the trial, the letter said, —œa miscarriage of justice will take place without proper consideration of scientific evidence.—?

Dr. Richard J. Roberts, who shared the 1993 Nobel Prize in physiology or medicine, said he delivered the letter on Tuesday to Ambassador Attia Mubarak, the leader of the Libyan mission to the United Nations.

Last month, the leaders of Britain—™s most eminent scientific institutions, including the Royal College of Physicians and the Royal Society, began a similar letter campaign.

In The Times of London, the scientists wrote: —œWe ask the medical and scientific authorities of the United Nations, Arab countries, United States and European Union (Bulgaria will join the E.U. in three months) to exert their utmost influence on President Qaddafi to prevent what might amount to judicial murder.—?

It is gratifying to see that scientists in this field are capable of recognizing nonsense, at least when it is peddled by petty Libyan bureaucrats trying to get themselves off the hook of being accused of unsafe conditions at a Benghazi Hospital by sacrificing the lives of nurses and a doctor who came to help Libyans improve their health, though why hygiene should be such a sensitive point is unclear. Are conditions in the Libyan health system normally so squeaky clean that this if true would stand out?

Whatever the truth in this case – shouldn’t Elizabeth Rosenthal the Times correspondent in Rome give up her Italian espressos for a few days and take a trip across the Mediterranean to Libya to find out for us? – it is a wonderful tribute to the human mind and its capacity for self-foolery that these gentlemen can castigate the Libyan HIV∫AIDS theory of nurses purposely injecting 426 babies with HIV as nonsense and yet fail to see their own idea of the HIV∫AIDS paradigm as equally absurd.

Let’s hope that no one starts quoting Luke 6.42 at them, since they have enough religious impulse in them already and we wouldn’t want to encourage any more of it.

How canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.

As readers of this blog are well aware, we exist to fend off the religious impulse and prevent the insidious creep of this tendency to subscribe to paradigms on the basis of faith rather than fact from this field and any others it might warp.

Science is not a church, and we hope that the Libyan case may even join the one in Australia in opening up the HIV∫AIDS faith to proper examination and reporting in the media and among scientists, as opposed to the NIAID state of censorship so long imposed by the well dressed Dr Anthony Fauci, director of that institution.

Scientists Urge New Trial in Libya AIDS Case by Elizabeth Rosenthal

November 5, 2006
Scientists Urge New Trial in Libya AIDS Case
By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL

ROME, Nov. 4 —” With five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor on trial in Tripoli on charges that they spread H.I.V. to 426 Libyan children, hundreds of prominent scientists are rallying in their defense, calling for a new and fairer trial.

The nurses and doctor were foreign experts working at Al Fateh Children—™s Hospital in Benghazi, Libya, in 1998, when an outbreak of H.I.V. was detected at the hospital.

For years, Libyan authorities, including the country—™s leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, blamed the foreigners for the outbreak, suggesting that they had intentionally injected Libya—™s children with the virus. But a 2003 independent scientific report on the outbreak, by two of Europe—™s most prominent AIDS experts who spent many weeks in Libya reviewing the evidence, concluded that poor sanitary practices at the hospital were to blame.

Despite that report, which was commissioned by the Libyan government, the six have been in prison in Libya since their arrest in 1999, and they were sentenced to death in 2004.

A new trial was ordered after international protests.

In August, when the second trial started, prosecutors again requested the death penalty.

The expert report was not presented at the new trial, which is now close to conclusion. On Saturday, the judge said that the six would be sentenced on Dec. 19, Reuters reported.

The two experts, Dr. Luc Montagnier, co-discoverer of the virus that causes AIDS, and Dr. Vittorio Colizzi of Italy, said they had not been called to testify.

—œWe—™re concerned that the nurses and the doctor are being used as scapegoats for the problem of H.I.V. in Libya,—? said Dr. Ian Gilmore, the president of the Royal College of Physicians, who signed one of the letters. —œWe realized we had to mobilize —” the case had slipped off the radar.—?

—œYou have to worry it—™s partly because they—™re from a less prominent country,—? he said. —œIf they had been British or American, the world would have woken up sooner.—?

This week, on the Web site of the journal Nature, 114 Nobel laureates signed an open letter to Colonel Qaddafi. By not allowing —œindependent scientific evidence—? to be presented at the trial, the letter said, —œa miscarriage of justice will take place without proper consideration of scientific evidence.—?

Dr. Richard J. Roberts, who shared the 1993 Nobel Prize in physiology or medicine, said he delivered the letter on Tuesday to Ambassador Attia Mubarak, the leader of the Libyan mission to the United Nations.

Last month, the leaders of Britain—™s most eminent scientific institutions, including the Royal College of Physicians and the Royal Society, began a similar letter campaign.

In The Times of London, the scientists wrote: —œWe ask the medical and scientific authorities of the United Nations, Arab countries, United States and European Union (Bulgaria will join the E.U. in three months) to exert their utmost influence on President Qaddafi to prevent what might amount to judicial murder.—?

American and European politicians have frequently raised concerns about the medics—™ fate, but at the same time have gone on to develop closer relations with Libya.

4 Responses to “Libyan intervention by scientists”

  1. Martin Kessler Says:

    Had the medical establishment been honest about what AIDS really was to begin with, none of this would have happened. HIV would have never been convicted – what ever HIV is (a retrovirus) would never have been renamed as such – it would have remained as one of the many naturally occuring microbes in oranisms.

  2. Truthseeker Says:

    Had the medical establishment been honest about what AIDS really was to begin with

    Martin, can you clarify? Were they not honest until 1984, when Gallo announced he had discovered a retrovirus was a “probable” cause of AIDS, when the Federal endorsement of this improbable result, and the funding green light that went with it, converted it into the sine qua non of AIDS?

    Perhaps you mean that as the beginning.

  3. Martin Kessler Says:

    As the FDA, the medical establishment and research became more linked to phamaceuticals – and this has probably been happening over a long time, I believe that AIDS may represent the pinacle of dishonesty (psychiatry is a close second). The money to be made and what the government will fund for research grants is so tied up with politics and the politically correct, it will be a long time before we see honest research when big money is involved.

  4. Truthseeker Says:

    The idea that HIV∫AIDS is best recognized as the pinnacle of achievement of the pharmas is interesting, certainly, though perhaps one would have to measure what the contribution of Federal funding has been to see if that deserves equal billing, wouldn’t you say?

    The pharmas now seem to be driving the HIV∫AIDS heterosexual pandemic fantasy overseas, though Federal funding is the main fuel there too for the moment, unless the pharma numbers are already much greater than $15 billion. Have to research what they are.

    Yes, your concept makes perfect sense. The insane faith in drugs goes hand in hand with the obsession with hunting for bugs as the cause of disease, rather than toxic substances, which reason indicates must play a larger part over the years, since they are created by Man rather more easily than new microbes, unless of course they are retroviruses.

    Odd how they haven’t come up with any other retrovirus as candidate for disease except Gallo’s early coup with HTLV-1. Perhaps they will, unless Laurie Garrett keeps the world supplied single handedly with new and fantastic terrors.

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