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	<title>Comments on: Obama brings a little hope</title>
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		<title>By: Baby Pong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baby Pong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep dreaming, TS. There&#039;s no chance that Obama would rethink the paradigm. Zero chance. Look at who&#039;s funding his campaigns. 

Nobody&#039;s going to assassinate Obama, because the elite adopted him early in his career and love him. However, if he ever showed some independence and decided to question Aids, he&#039;d be outta here; faster than you can say &quot;lone gunman&quot; a new Lee Harvey would suddenly appear to take the rap for the Bilderbergers who ordered the hit. Or, Obama would mysteriously get very sick, and die, from &quot;Aids.&quot;

You guys are terminally naive. Obama is far more likely to demand mandatory testing than to rethink anything.

He will use his position as Hitlery&#039;s VP to push for that, in Africa and in the US. But all members of the government will be exempt from testing, though they will stage fake &quot;photo ops&quot; of themselves getting tested to fool the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep dreaming, TS. There&#8217;s no chance that Obama would rethink the paradigm. Zero chance. Look at who&#8217;s funding his campaigns. </p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s going to assassinate Obama, because the elite adopted him early in his career and love him. However, if he ever showed some independence and decided to question Aids, he&#8217;d be outta here; faster than you can say &#8220;lone gunman&#8221; a new Lee Harvey would suddenly appear to take the rap for the Bilderbergers who ordered the hit. Or, Obama would mysteriously get very sick, and die, from &#8220;Aids.&#8221;</p>
<p>You guys are terminally naive. Obama is far more likely to demand mandatory testing than to rethink anything.</p>
<p>He will use his position as Hitlery&#8217;s VP to push for that, in Africa and in the US. But all members of the government will be exempt from testing, though they will stage fake &#8220;photo ops&#8221; of themselves getting tested to fool the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: hhbauer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharpton would do nicely. I&#039;ll settle for anyone who is visible enough to stir up a fuss sufficient to make some of the major media take the time to look at the facts. 

A friend of mine long ago suggested approaching the National Enquirer, claiming it was the first to break the media blackout on the fact that most ulcers are caused by bacteria. If the NE were to initiate contact, I would even talk to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharpton would do nicely. I&#8217;ll settle for anyone who is visible enough to stir up a fuss sufficient to make some of the major media take the time to look at the facts. </p>
<p>A friend of mine long ago suggested approaching the National Enquirer, claiming it was the first to break the media blackout on the fact that most ulcers are caused by bacteria. If the NE were to initiate contact, I would even talk to them.</p>
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		<title>By: MacDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course he would be of use. And so would even more extreme characters. I was talking of exactly the kind of chain of people who listen to each other that you and Prof. Bauer were plodding on about just above. Black politicians at the top, or potentially going somewhere, have all kinds of connections with lesser, more radical figures. That&#039;s as clear as I can make it.
 
Forget about the top; If large or powerful segments of certain communities voice concerns, their elected representatives have to deal with those concerns no matter how crazy they are. There comes a time or two in every politician&#039;s life where he has to pay more than lip service to the voters - briefly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course he would be of use. And so would even more extreme characters. I was talking of exactly the kind of chain of people who listen to each other that you and Prof. Bauer were plodding on about just above. Black politicians at the top, or potentially going somewhere, have all kinds of connections with lesser, more radical figures. That&#8217;s as clear as I can make it.</p>
<p>Forget about the top; If large or powerful segments of certain communities voice concerns, their elected representatives have to deal with those concerns no matter how crazy they are. There comes a time or two in every politician&#8217;s life where he has to pay more than lip service to the voters &#8211; briefly</p>
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		<title>By: Truthseeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true, Henry, a bridge of trust made up of people without a weak link between any of them, covering each degree of separation.   You have identified the exact need, I believe, the only solution to the problem of building up trust between dissident source of research and recipient leader, as long as all dissidents are known to be &quot;crazies&quot; as you say.  However I do believe there are various qualifiers.  One is any tendency, admittedly rare, for a political leader to think about such a topic for himself, which Mbeki showed was not impossible.  Another is whether the fact that the credentials of the dissident himself can be established as impeccable, which was always Peter Duesberg&#039;s trump card, and which is still his trump card, and why the paradigm defense squad never mentions him now if they can avoid it, which is most of the time, now that he has devoted himself to a more fruitful scientific path - which itself threatens to present them with the trump card yet again in play.

Sharpton would not be of use even if he listened would he?   He is more a figure from the past in black politics now that Obama has forged to the front, I believe.  But perhaps you were joking, MacD?   Hard to imagine that Sharpton would confer legitimacy on AIDS science debunking if he took it up, even with blacks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, Henry, a bridge of trust made up of people without a weak link between any of them, covering each degree of separation.   You have identified the exact need, I believe, the only solution to the problem of building up trust between dissident source of research and recipient leader, as long as all dissidents are known to be &#8220;crazies&#8221; as you say.  However I do believe there are various qualifiers.  One is any tendency, admittedly rare, for a political leader to think about such a topic for himself, which Mbeki showed was not impossible.  Another is whether the fact that the credentials of the dissident himself can be established as impeccable, which was always Peter Duesberg&#8217;s trump card, and which is still his trump card, and why the paradigm defense squad never mentions him now if they can avoid it, which is most of the time, now that he has devoted himself to a more fruitful scientific path &#8211; which itself threatens to present them with the trump card yet again in play.</p>
<p>Sharpton would not be of use even if he listened would he?   He is more a figure from the past in black politics now that Obama has forged to the front, I believe.  But perhaps you were joking, MacD?   Hard to imagine that Sharpton would confer legitimacy on AIDS science debunking if he took it up, even with blacks!</p>
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