Comments on: Stealing America: hacking put Bush in office http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm Reviewing scientific paradigms and other general beliefs in the light of the scientific and professional literature Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:57:56 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Baby Pong http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6090 Baby Pong Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:53:48 +0000 http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm#comment-6090 MacD, http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=hoist+petard&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 This is from Shakespeare I believe; are you saying that he didn't know his grammar? Fortunately an explanation appears in that link: AUE: FAQ excerpt: "hoist with his own petard""Hoist" was in Shakespeare's time the past participles of a verb "to hoise", which meant what "to hoist" does now: to lift. A petard (see under "peter out" ... MacD,

http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=hoist+petard&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

This is from Shakespeare I believe; are you saying that he didn’t know his grammar?

Fortunately an explanation appears in that link:

AUE: FAQ excerpt: “hoist with his own petard”"Hoist” was in Shakespeare’s time the past participles of a verb “to hoise”, which meant what “to hoist” does now: to lift. A petard (see under “peter out” …

]]> By: Truthseeker http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6089 Truthseeker Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:28:59 +0000 http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm#comment-6089 'Hoist on your own petard', MacD, is a common predicament. Yes, it would be very admirable if you turned from fighting battles which are long over, intellectually speaking, and turn to politics, which is the plane on which things actually get decided in a world where education, judgement, insight and being well informed counts for less and less, judging from the current Presidential campaign. Exhibit One: McCain's responses on health reform to the mighty AARP, compared with Obama's. Nothing bland about the latter, compared with the blather of the former, unspecific and revealing of how McCain lacks any moral and political compass other than defending the gains of the new robber barons of the 21st Century, the Bush led thieves of Washington. Nothing blander than the criminal busy pocketing the loot while professing ideology to those who have caught him in the act, or his friend who is standing by to take over the franchise, wouldn't you agree?. ‘Hoist on your own petard’, MacD, is a common predicament. Yes, it would be very admirable if you turned from fighting battles which are long over, intellectually speaking, and turn to politics, which is the plane on which things actually get decided in a world where education, judgement, insight and being well informed counts for less and less, judging from the current Presidential campaign. Exhibit One: McCain’s responses on health reform to the mighty AARP, compared with Obama’s. Nothing bland about the latter, compared with the blather of the former, unspecific and revealing of how McCain lacks any moral and political compass other than defending the gains of the new robber barons of the 21st Century, the Bush led thieves of Washington. Nothing blander than the criminal busy pocketing the loot while professing ideology to those who have caught him in the act, or his friend who is standing by to take over the franchise, wouldn’t you agree?.

]]> By: MacDonald http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6088 MacDonald Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:03:43 +0000 http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm#comment-6088 Mr. Pong, How is it possible? There is no such other thing in the entire English language as, "Being hoist" TS. Well if Duesberg exploded those studies long ago, everything in AIDSland should be hunky dory by now. I'll just quit being a denialist, then, and turn to worshipping that bland coloured guy you're so fond of. Mr. Pong,

How is it possible? There is no such other thing in the entire English language as,

“Being hoist”

TS.

Well if Duesberg exploded those studies long ago, everything in AIDSland should be hunky dory by now. I’ll just quit being a denialist, then, and turn to worshipping that bland coloured guy you’re so fond of.

]]> By: Truthseeker http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6087 Truthseeker Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:35:14 +0000 http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/stealing-america-did-hackers-put-bush-in-office.htm#comment-6087 Crack coke causes "AIDS" ie immune problems? Glad to hear this was finally established, as per Duesberg so long ago. (Those studies by Ascher etc were exploded by Duesberg and others on the basis of a large amount of research since showing immunosuppressive effects from recreational drugs except not marijuana, partly because they suppress the appetite and starve the body of protein and trace elements vital to the immune system such as selenium and zinc, witness all those rail thin, bedraggled drug abusers without the money to hide). So what do we have? Since HIV causes nothing, then this and other, designer drugs must have caused AIDS in gays who patronized their extreme nightspots in the late seventies/early eighties. In Africa, we have "AIDS" as a relabeling of other ways health is sabotaged, from insufficient food of the right kind to myriad tropical diseases including especially severe TB. Heterosexuals in the West need not worry, except that Dr Fauci and the CDC will have them all tested if they don't watch out and since a certain number have HIV from their mothers, they risk iatrogenic AIDS through the current drug regimen which even loyal gay activists and drug spokesman Magic Johnson take "holidays" from, since buffalo humps and liver damage are not pleasant to endure. Surely not. This is all too simple and clearcut. Modern science has proved that things are much more complicated than that. In the first place, nothing works unless it is fundable and patentable and costs money, and you are suggesting that if people keep away from crack and other abuses of their complex and sensitive bodily systems they will avoid "AIDS". This is far too simple. Where would the jobs be? What would Dr Fauci do for fun? No, you can't fool me. I am not that naive. You must be one of them denialists. Please, step back. We need to keep this area clear. Back to our political meanderings, we resist this cheap undermining of the reputation of Barack simply because he is adapting to the endless foolishness of the electorate in this uninformed country. He is a fine fellow, and if you can't tell by his manner and his clearminded exposition of his sophisticated and nuanced position on the major issues that he is a totally new order of political leader then you will follow these simple points on a lower level which is the plane of media talking points, of which we have to confess we are thoroughly tired now we have seen what the possibilities are, ie the application of genuine intelligence to the vital problems faced by the world in the 21st Century. You can see all this if you just look at the reaction of his colleagues to Obama in Congress and the Senate. They respect him, all of them. Even Hillary said she was honored to be in his presence. Keep the faith, bro! The bottom line is that national policy these days is infernally difficult to formulate sensibly while you are busy running a campaign into the wee hours every day and so much error has been built into the system by the current Administration. Give the guy a break. Winning by a landslide looks more and more unlikely and short of that the machines could well be rigged. So we will all have to put up with McCain anyway. May we suggest that in this light, Obama will look like a disastrously lost opportunity? Crack coke causes “AIDS” ie immune problems? Glad to hear this was finally established, as per Duesberg so long ago. (Those studies by Ascher etc were exploded by Duesberg and others on the basis of a large amount of research since showing immunosuppressive effects from recreational drugs except not marijuana, partly because they suppress the appetite and starve the body of protein and trace elements vital to the immune system such as selenium and zinc, witness all those rail thin, bedraggled drug abusers without the money to hide).

So what do we have? Since HIV causes nothing, then this and other, designer drugs must have caused AIDS in gays who patronized their extreme nightspots in the late seventies/early eighties. In Africa, we have “AIDS” as a relabeling of other ways health is sabotaged, from insufficient food of the right kind to myriad tropical diseases including especially severe TB.

Heterosexuals in the West need not worry, except that Dr Fauci and the CDC will have them all tested if they don’t watch out and since a certain number have HIV from their mothers, they risk iatrogenic AIDS through the current drug regimen which even loyal gay activists and drug spokesman Magic Johnson take “holidays” from, since buffalo humps and liver damage are not pleasant to endure.

Surely not. This is all too simple and clearcut. Modern science has proved that things are much more complicated than that. In the first place, nothing works unless it is fundable and patentable and costs money, and you are suggesting that if people keep away from crack and other abuses of their complex and sensitive bodily systems they will avoid “AIDS”. This is far too simple. Where would the jobs be? What would Dr Fauci do for fun? No, you can’t fool me. I am not that naive. You must be one of them denialists. Please, step back. We need to keep this area clear.

Back to our political meanderings, we resist this cheap undermining of the reputation of Barack simply because he is adapting to the endless foolishness of the electorate in this uninformed country. He is a fine fellow, and if you can’t tell by his manner and his clearminded exposition of his sophisticated and nuanced position on the major issues that he is a totally new order of political leader then you will follow these simple points on a lower level which is the plane of media talking points, of which we have to confess we are thoroughly tired now we have seen what the possibilities are, ie the application of genuine intelligence to the vital problems faced by the world in the 21st Century.

You can see all this if you just look at the reaction of his colleagues to Obama in Congress and the Senate. They respect him, all of them. Even Hillary said she was honored to be in his presence. Keep the faith, bro!

The bottom line is that national policy these days is infernally difficult to formulate sensibly while you are busy running a campaign into the wee hours every day and so much error has been built into the system by the current Administration. Give the guy a break. Winning by a landslide looks more and more unlikely and short of that the machines could well be rigged. So we will all have to put up with McCain anyway. May we suggest that in this light, Obama will look like a disastrously lost opportunity?

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