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	<title>Comments on: Awards in Washington for Duesberg and Farber</title>
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		<title>By: Truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/whistleblower-awards-in-washington-for-duesberg-and-farber.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5984</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcel deserves infinite respect for making monkeys out of the monkeys who lead HIV/AIDS and finding humor in its vast but lethal error but to say he deserves a patent on the idea of their moving HIV science onto firm ground by explaining it has mutated into a harmless form is like saying he should be awarded copyright on the idea that heterosexual AIDS is a non starter.  The proposal that he be recognized for this is so original and humorous that - could it be? - one suspects it is being put forward by the great man himself, operating under a pseudonym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcel deserves infinite respect for making monkeys out of the monkeys who lead HIV/AIDS and finding humor in its vast but lethal error but to say he deserves a patent on the idea of their moving HIV science onto firm ground by explaining it has mutated into a harmless form is like saying he should be awarded copyright on the idea that heterosexual AIDS is a non starter.  The proposal that he be recognized for this is so original and humorous that &#8211; could it be? &#8211; one suspects it is being put forward by the great man himself, operating under a pseudonym.</p>
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		<title>By: Baby Pong</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/whistleblower-awards-in-washington-for-duesberg-and-farber.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5982</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby Pong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a trivial concern. If Marcel&#039;s idea, i.e., ending Aids by announcing that the virus has mutated into a harmless form, is adopted by the Aids establishment, then perhaps Marcel will qualify to share the subsequent Nobel with Gallo, Fauci, Harvard Aids Institute, or whichever other Aids opportunists steal Marcel&#039;s idea when the House of Cards really starts collapsing.

So I&#039;m sure you will agree on the importance of establishing that this idea is Marcel&#039;s intellectual property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a trivial concern. If Marcel&#8217;s idea, i.e., ending Aids by announcing that the virus has mutated into a harmless form, is adopted by the Aids establishment, then perhaps Marcel will qualify to share the subsequent Nobel with Gallo, Fauci, Harvard Aids Institute, or whichever other Aids opportunists steal Marcel&#8217;s idea when the House of Cards really starts collapsing.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m sure you will agree on the importance of establishing that this idea is Marcel&#8217;s intellectual property.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceguardian.com/blog/whistleblower-awards-in-washington-for-duesberg-and-farber.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5968</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above post is so wonderfully silly that we leave it up for connoisseurs of fine Web posts.  Suffice it to say that anyone who thinks the idea of saying that HIV has mutated into a harmless form is a brilliantly novel conception worthy of nailing down priority should be reading YBYL, except that now YBYL has been revived by a certain mathematician it is now on a higher level of brilliancy than even Science Guardian, so he/she will be out of his depth even more there.

There are two species which can see through HIV/AIDS almost immediately it is explained to them,  if not sooner:  a) mathematicians and b) lawyers.  Both are extremely welcome here.  So is Marcel, who is distinguished by a sense of humor so productive that we doubt he has any concern whatsoever about claiming priority on anything so obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above post is so wonderfully silly that we leave it up for connoisseurs of fine Web posts.  Suffice it to say that anyone who thinks the idea of saying that HIV has mutated into a harmless form is a brilliantly novel conception worthy of nailing down priority should be reading YBYL, except that now YBYL has been revived by a certain mathematician it is now on a higher level of brilliancy than even Science Guardian, so he/she will be out of his depth even more there.</p>
<p>There are two species which can see through HIV/AIDS almost immediately it is explained to them,  if not sooner:  a) mathematicians and b) lawyers.  Both are extremely welcome here.  So is Marcel, who is distinguished by a sense of humor so productive that we doubt he has any concern whatsoever about claiming priority on anything so obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Baby Pong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baby Pong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truthseeker wrote:

&quot;but the whole turnaround can probably be managed by presenting it as a new breakthrough in understanding achieved by briliiant publicly funded research and new evidence which has tracked the Virus into its new mutation with a novel characteristic of being harmless to humans...&quot;

I believe it was the poster named &quot;Marcel&quot; who first predicted that the only way the corrupt Aids establishment could end the fraud without destroying themselves and making the public so angry that world revolution against the power elite would become possible, would be to claim that &quot;the virus has mutated into a harmless form.&quot; 

A google search failed to turn this up, but a Yahoo search did, and we see that Marcel made that prediction in an article as far back as year 2000. He tells me that he thinks he&#039;s also made that same prediction on this blog, but the blog&#039;s anemic search engine fails to find it.

Now Truthseeker repeats Marcel&#039;s idea as if it were his own thinking, although Marcel&#039;s prediction could be found on this very forum, if it had a competent search engine. Either this one or AME, which also lacks a search engine.

And John Peemore, or that Jeffreys character, uses &quot;Tony Baloney&quot; as if it were his own invention, when in fact it is a ripoff of Marcel&#039;s identical words used in *this* satire. (though I highly doubt that Marcel was the first to use the words &quot;Tony Baloney&quot;) 

http://barnesworld.blogs.com/barnes_world/2006/12/south_africa_ta.html

Poor Marcel gets no respect! No wonder he doesn&#039;t post on this forum anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthseeker wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;but the whole turnaround can probably be managed by presenting it as a new breakthrough in understanding achieved by briliiant publicly funded research and new evidence which has tracked the Virus into its new mutation with a novel characteristic of being harmless to humans&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe it was the poster named &#8220;Marcel&#8221; who first predicted that the only way the corrupt Aids establishment could end the fraud without destroying themselves and making the public so angry that world revolution against the power elite would become possible, would be to claim that &#8220;the virus has mutated into a harmless form.&#8221; </p>
<p>A google search failed to turn this up, but a Yahoo search did, and we see that Marcel made that prediction in an article as far back as year 2000. He tells me that he thinks he&#8217;s also made that same prediction on this blog, but the blog&#8217;s anemic search engine fails to find it.</p>
<p>Now Truthseeker repeats Marcel&#8217;s idea as if it were his own thinking, although Marcel&#8217;s prediction could be found on this very forum, if it had a competent search engine. Either this one or AME, which also lacks a search engine.</p>
<p>And John Peemore, or that Jeffreys character, uses &#8220;Tony Baloney&#8221; as if it were his own invention, when in fact it is a ripoff of Marcel&#8217;s identical words used in *this* satire. (though I highly doubt that Marcel was the first to use the words &#8220;Tony Baloney&#8221;) </p>
<p><a href="http://barnesworld.blogs.com/barnes_world/2006/12/south_africa_ta.html" rel="nofollow">http://barnesworld.blogs.com/barnes_world/2006/12/south_africa_ta.html</a></p>
<p>Poor Marcel gets no respect! No wonder he doesn&#8217;t post on this forum anymore.</p>
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